UPDATED (October 22) - Katalon Studio/Enterprise 7.0 Interim Announcement


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New announcements October 22.

  1. KS License(s): https://docs.katalon.com/katalon-studio/docs/license.html

  2. KS Runtime Engine https://docs.katalon.com/katalon-studio/docs/intro-RE.html
    2.1 KS RE Activation: https://docs.katalon.com/katalon-studio/docs/activate-RE.html

  3. Pricing and Product Comparisons https://www.katalon.com/pricing/


October 21

Just a quick update to let everyone know…

Tomorrow (time zones may vary) a new announcement is due from Katalon management regarding Katalon Sudio Version 7 (incl. KSE and another as yet unannounced product offering).

Stay tuned!


As discussed here, KS and KSE licensing is being reviewed and discussed by Katalon management prior to the formal release of the software, Katalon Terms and Conditions and licensing model.

Our collective feedback has been considered and addressed by the management team and a revamped proposal for the future of both products (KS, KSE) is being formulated. The expectation is this will be available some time this week.

Agreed changes so far:

  • KS (free version) Test Case quota removal
  • Clear demarcation between paid (KSE) and free (KS) versions
  • KSE discount structure for existing KS users
  • UPDATE (Sep 26) Profiles quota removal

Like any interim announcement, this may invite more questions than it provides answers. However, all I know is what I’ve told you above. Until these proposals are finalized and published some time this week, please understand the above information is all there is.

I, for one, am truly pleased to know that Katalon Team are listening.

Thanks for reading.


Why Katalon is great, and what I think about V7/KSE
[10/03/2019] Katalon Studio Enterprise (RC2) is now available
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#3

Amazing, thank you for the update, Russ and Katalon Team


#4

I wish the test profile is not limited to 3 in Free version of Katalon.

https://forum.katalon.com/uploads/default/original/2X/e/e0929612f1db53623973891cedd16530b0e0265a.png


#7

@Russ_Thomas I really appreciate your help here.

I will wait for the official announcement from Katalon team as you mentioned. It would be great if Katalon removes Test Case Quota and also limit on number of profiles in the free version. Katalon made me fell in love with Automation and I want it to grow more.


#8

Thank @Russ_Thomas … Kudos @Katalon_Studio team …

Good to hear that you have removed the restriction for no of testcase. Hope you consider Test profile as well and not limit it 3…

I wish good luck and prosperity to Katalon Team …

… Reminiscence … When I initially started to use Katalon Studio, my boss asked this question: Why this tool is free & How long the tool is free.

So I created a PPT to talk about its advantage, easy usage, learning curve and pricing and below is the screenshot of one of the slide, which I showed him to convince him. Earlier we were using Robot Framework.

Please Note : These screenshot were taken from the official Katalon web site.

EDIT : @Russ_Thomas Closing the thread inhibits people from expressing their view on Katalon restrictions.


#9

CAT on the Wall … Katalon or Robot Framework. Waiting for the official announcement from Katalon Team.


#10

I am keeping my fingers crossed. :thinking:

I agree with @Marek_Melocik

it’d be better to follow Intellij’s plan, that you have free IDE with basic functions (but everything could be added by yourself) and Ultimate version contains all those advanced stuff you would have to implement.


#11

You lost a lot of trust with quota on free version. Glad to see you have removed it for now, how long will that last? :money_mouth_face: Probably after few months, quota will silently come back for sure :face_with_raised_eyebrow:


#12

No doubt … Katalon Studio is an awesome tool. Hats off @Katalon_Studio team

@abhishek.snitches199 … I too have a similar experience.

After recommending this tool to my Manager, he asked these two simple questions; Why free and how long? I showed him the below Katalon documentation to persuade him. But my manager agreed to use Katalon half-heartedly. I guess he foresee, what would happen next.

Now I have more than 400 TC with 8-9 profile. I am totally shocked to see the proceeding of Katalon.

I am quiet confused what to do now. I am in a deadly situation now, not sure how to face my Manage.


#13

The initial thread made me very nervous for our future with Katalon Studio, but these are all good changes. I’m glad the Katalon Team are listening to feedback.

I look forward to the official announcement soon.

EDIT: Another concern I have is the free versions requirement for online activation, as this is not an option for me in the environment I work in. I hope the current thinking around this requirement is changed.


#14

We all know its a good tool & everything is in one place. But, putting someone in bad state after advertising its free is horrible .Its really bad agenda to add restriction on profile & test cases. When you already said its free in the beginning & now applied the constraint. I feel like its a downfall for the Katalon. The way Selenium eat up Mercury. Definitely some one who hampered by this restriction badly come in the Market with open source tool.


#15

Hello my fellow automation pioneers,

TLDR: I love Katalon Studio. I dunno how I feel about the enterprise version of it. Thank you to the community. What are your thoughts?

This will probably be a sappy post, but I’d love feedback and input on this. I’ll preface with this is just my story and my opinion. I’d appreciate your time to read.

I started working on automated testing about a couple years ago now and it’s been a great journey so far. I started as a manual QA tester now three years ago and was given the go-ahead to start looking into better solutions, specifically automated ones. This was my time to shine as I had a college career in software engineering. I looked into a few tools for this purpose, most notably the SmartBear products. The cost of these software packages where certainly overwhelming, coming from a company that is very tight on budgets. It was looking pretty bleak until I came across the tool we are all here for, Katalon Studio. This was around maybe late 2017/early 2018 when Katalon was in a very early state, the community was relatively small, and this forum was also in a very early state. I have been able to see Katalon improve so much over the past couple years, and see people of the community really come together to help each other out. I’m sure we all share that little excitement when we see posts from the Katalon developers that tell us “This new thing will be available in X release”. If it wasn’t for Katalon Studio being free, I certainly wouldn’t be where I am today.

I loved it, and I was really excited to be part of a new community and application that seriously was blowing my mind. I have been given the opportunity to do some really cool stuff at my company. I can happily say that I lead a small QA team in automation efforts and helping them get rid of all the boring manual QA they do day-to-day. It has even gone as far as creating a sustainable and modular automation framework for them to use on the 100-200+ web apps the company builds throughout the year. It has been an incredible benefit to both my team and myself to have such a tool to use. Now that it has been proven to be an incredible asset to the company, other departments are looking for ways to make their processes even better with the use of automation. it has really flourished here and although it may seem silly, it really makes me happy to see people get excited about this stuff.

In regards to the upcoming release, I find it bittersweet. I’m glad I get to keep doing what I’m doing in regards to pressing on with automation efforts. I can only imagine I’ll still be lurking and helping out where I can in the community. I do understand that business need to make money, so I see where KMS (my assumption, the parent company of Katalon Studio) are coming from when making another paid version (Katalon Studio Enterprise) of the tool we know and love. I am still a little concerned however because of the split versions. I’m the type of person that loves new stuff and toys to play with in software applications. I’ll make a correspondence to video games for this next part. As an avid player of video games I have been seeing things like this for awhile now. You get a game from $0-$60 and then there are pay walls for more things, all the fun stuff. The extra goodies and things you get to have but only if you pay for them. Again in a sense I get it, people want to get paid for what they do and the efforts they make. The problem arises where these sorts of business models become more common or more important then the people that it’s for. If anybody is an active player then you’ll know what I mean when I mention micro-transactions or even paid DLC. There are companies out there that are taking advantage of this and giving us 1/2 a game for full price and then selling the rest in 15-30 dollar expansions. It really sucks!

My main concern here is what things are going to be held back on the “freemium” version of KS or even down the line what things will be pulled from it. I have already seen this in the form of TestRail and JIRA integrations/plugins. These used to be part of KS but were later pulled into a paid plugin. As I look at the “enterprise advanced features” grid, I fear that these things will not be able to be used anymore unless I break down the pay wall so to speak. Unfortunately I’m at the will of my company and I’m going to be missing out which makes me a bit upset. I hope it never comes to a point where I’m unable to continue my work because of features being pulled. It really is a battle to get certain things where I currently am, and I’m not looking forward to trying to battle again over such an important tool.

In closing, I just want to thank all those who have helped me in the community here, it really means a lot. May we never stop learning, discovering, and helping with our own automation efforts. We’re all from different disciplines, companies, and what have you, but we all share a common goal here and that’s just great. If you did end up reading my whole post here today, I really appreciate your time.

What are you’re experiences with Katalon Studio?
How do you feel about the new release of V7/KSE?
Do you have any concerns about the different versions?


#16

Hi. I just want to add that both Test Case and Profile quotas are removed.


Why is Katalon Studio is free and how long does it stay free?
#18

I hope everyone agrees that this topic has served its purpose and that leaving it open for yet more people to add essentially the same feedback serves little to add to that purpose.

In the light of the latest info provided by @devalex88, I am closing this topic for the time being preferring to wait for the final announcement from Katalon Team and management.

I will update the head topic as soon as there is any further official feedback or announcement(s).

Thanks everyone.


#23

Did I understand that correct from https://docs.katalon.com/katalon-studio/docs/activate-RE.html that when I want to run my testsuites over command line I have to pay for the KS Runtime Engine?

So in future I’m not able to use KS with my jenkins task management system?

If that’s correct, it would be very sad for me. I had a real great time with KS in the past, but I don’t think I could handle my test environment with the free version anymore or I get stuck on the 6.3.3 version, where I have the functionality I need.

Thanks
Andreas


#25

From what I gather, if you want to run test suites using CLI, you will need to acquire the KRE license as of version 7 and onward. I’m also having a bit of a struggle with this as I have multiple regressions scheduled using CLI overnight and what have you.


#26

It looks like Katalon is moving with full throttle into whole licensing business model like other vendors. I wish good luck to Katalon and hope it can provide discounts to the users who are using this tool and have been supported Katalon on its journey with Technical and business help.


#27

@Vijay_Singh Please see this post, Katalon is offering discount to current users


#28

@Vijay_Singh katalon is moving full throtle to be a sustenable project. and since skilled devs working for free are hard to find … therefore the monetizing plan. so … this is it.